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Yeah yeah yeah, though I hardly think you've proven anything.

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It will take a lot of convincing to prove to you that a lot of Americans are indeed trigger happy cowboys! "Shoot first, think later" type attitude. :down:

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Yeah obviously some are, but I don't think that warrants the wholesale slamming of Americans. There are other trigger happy types out there who aren't American yet I highly doubt we'd see anyone here bashing them.

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I'm sure there are, but everyone knows its the Americans that do it the most. emoticon

Take a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_fire#Friendly_fire_in_the_U.S._military

It's a well known fact, unfortunatly. emoticon

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 I've never denied that we don't have a lot of incidents but its not like we're sitting here fragging people just for fun. I keep getting this vibe that yer doing this just for the sake of bashing Americans.

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Oh no I'm not, I just know that it happens a lot. Lot's of other people say so too, even what I said earlier.. A friend of the man killed by this friendy fire incident is a soldier aswell, and he has seen their cowboy behavour in person. In my opinion, I would be terrified even being allied by these particular incompetent American soliders. I'd hate to have been shot down because some incompetent adrenaline seeking trigger happy American had mistaken me for an enemy tank. emoticon

Suprisingly I don't dislike Americans, just the ones that do this. Its hard not to say "Americans are this" "Americans are that" I'm sure there are a lot of good decent American soldiers. I'm pretty sure that some British aren't great either, but with the American's track record its hard not to stereotype when things like this actually happen.

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    Oh I'm sure there are plenty of idiots in our army. Being thats its all volunteer they let some real buffoons join up just becuase they are so short on manpower. When you don't really care about who is joining your army things like this are bound to happen. I bet some of those guys have criminal records and they just let em through anyway because they need more troops. Its never a good thing when you have these types of people in an army.



    
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Suprisingly I don't dislike Americans



  You say that but honestly I have a very hard time believing it. I can remember moments past where you didn't seem to like them very much.

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Yeah, they need to think who they're really letting into the army and giving them proper training before they're sent into situations like these. But sometimes the cowboy attitude will never leave them (part of how they're brought up) and will do it anyway. emoticon

No seriously, I would be cruel to say something like "I hate all Americans because.." when everyone is different and I judge people as individuals. Its just the ones that hold true to the stereotypes that make me dislike them quite often. That's like me saying religion is a very bad idea BUT I know there are people that have been better because of it and how religion has done good for people for example.. I've never once mentioned the word 'All' at all when saying something negative about Americans, which means I don't think that way about all of them. How can I? I've never met all of them, infact I haven't even got to know any(offline) emoticon

Yeah back in the day I disliked them even more, can you guess why? I was with a political geek who really dislikes them, and I'm not too fond of them either so whats going to happen. emoticon

This reminds me of that stupid argument I had on why "What China do to Cats and Dogs disgusts me", the silly little byond geeks twisted it and started calling me racist, bigoted, etc. Just because I didn't title it "What some people in China do to Cats and Dogs disgusts me" how stupid was that, you shouldn't have to be that specific for people not to make judgements. Atleast there are people with sense in most other places.

Ok maybe this was a bit too long of a post and is going slightly off topic.

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Yeah, they need to think who they're really letting into the army and giving them proper training before they're sent into situations like these. But sometimes the cowboy attitude will never leave them (part of how they're brought up) and will do it anyway.



     I'm sure they receive good training but I was thinking more of not letting people in who have extensive criminal records. Doing that will only result in something bad. Attitude should be a small factor on this part and in fact I would bet that a cowyboy type attitude would be desirable for someone who is going to fight. It has its positives and negatives but in an all volunteer army they take what they can get.


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No seriously, I would be cruel to say something like "I hate all Americans because.." when everyone is different and I judge people as individuals. Its just the ones that hold true to the stereotypes that make me dislike them quite often. That's like me saying religion is a very bad idea BUT I know there are people that have been better because of it and how religion has done good for people for example.. I've never once mentioned the word 'All' at all when saying something negative about Americans, which means I don't think that way about all of them. How can I? I've never met all of them, infact I haven't even got to know any(offline)



  Ok I understand however I still think there is a propensity to pick on Americans simply for that fact that they are Americans. Of course we dig our own graves sometimes but there are other instances where this isn't the case.

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Yeah back in the day I disliked them even more, can you guess why? I was with a political geek who really dislikes them, and I'm not too fond of them either so whats going to happen.



   Yeah I'm gonna kick his ass if I ever see him. He oughta know better than to mess with someone from Baltimore. emoticon



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     I'm sure they receive good training but I was thinking more of not letting people in who have extensive criminal records. Doing that will only result in something bad. Attitude should be a small factor on this part and in fact I would bet that a cowyboy type attitude would be desirable for someone who is going to fight. It has its positives and negatives but in an all volunteer army they take what they can get.



Yeah well they shouldn't be letting people in who have criminal records anyway even if they are desperate, thats just asking for trouble!


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  Ok I understand however I still think there is a propensity to pick on Americans simply for that fact that they are Americans. Of course we dig our own graves sometimes but there are other instances where this isn't the case.




I don't pick on you because your American do I? I pick on those that fit the stereotypes. :naughty:

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   Yeah I'm gonna kick his ass if I ever see him. He oughta know better than to mess with someone from Baltimore. emoticon




LOL, yeah I'm sure you could easily. Even I'm stronger than him( and that aint saying much). emoticon emoticon

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