Zeen
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Re: This is why religion scares me....
quote: General Queeaqueg wrote:
I have animals. Animals show no sentience. I can't see into an animals minds but I have not seen any type of awareness. Humans have language and animals don't... that is something very important. Animals probably have a weak awareness but not a strong one like Humans. It really doesn't bother me that animals might have self-awareness, I believe they have souls and are part of the reincarnation cycle but I don't think they can understand idea that suffering exists.
Well then you tell me how would you know if an animal was aware of their existance? You don't give me any examples. The only way that would convince you is if they said it to you, which isn't possible. Did you go to that link I gave? Pretty much is in favour that they do acknowledge they exist, because of certain actions they do.
Animals have language and communicate,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_language
I'd like to believe humans and animals have souls. Well animals DO suffer just as we humans do. You do know animals can get depressed right?? And depression is suffering.. Animals have strong emotions. They know more than you may think!
If we want to talk more about animals you can make a seperate thread.
quote: You wouldn't be a Christian if you didn't believe in hell. You can't simply cut out the bad parts and only take the good. I see people do this all the time and it irritates me. I understand where you're coming from but given that the bible mentions hell countless times I don't see how you can simply get around it.
Exactly!!! Aparently lots do this. They seem to just edit the Bible to fit their best interests. I think its stupid to do that.
quote: The problem with this is that if god knows everything, then he knew how we would abuse free will, and yet he still gave it to use anyway. God pretty much gave the green light for all that "evil" stuff to happen. I think that strips him of his holy status.
I could also say that if god is all powerful why not just make a free will without evil. Only give use the ability to do good. Bam problem solved. This is pretty much what velocity is saying as well.
More great points from you and VE. Exactly if there really was a loving God he would have given us free will without evil. He would have made it so so many bad things do not happen.
quote: Depends how much you depend of the Scriptures. Quakers ignore the Bible and believe in God without it. If I were a Christian, that would be the way I would do it.
That is not a True Christian though, if there are so many different types of Christians that believe in different things (some ignore the Bible, some follow it very strictly) then why claim you are Christian in the first place?? Why would you want others to believe you follow the Bible, as isn't thats whats required of a Christian?? When someone tells me their christian I would assume they believe in the Bible.
That's why if you were brought up believing you were from a certain religion, or if your parents brought you up religiously. That you shouldn't claim your Christian/any other religion if you happen to not really believe in it/doubt it or take it seriously. I wonder how many people out there say they are Christian yet aren't true Christians.. Probably a huge percentage (well probably like 90% of em here anyway )
Last edited by Zeen, 26/Jun/07, 2:08 am
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26/Jun/07, 2:01 am
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