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As for smokers in general, I have little respect for them because they're willingly giving themselves a slow death.



Well I've read the whole thread and this seems to be the general consensus.

This is a pretty prejudiced view. I see selfish smokers a lot, and I too hate them. But I am a former smoker myself and think you're forgetting all the considerate smokers who do actually take into account the fact that their smoke may make others feel uncomfortable.

If I'm in a pub sitting closely around people I know that most would be grossed out if I pulled out a lighter&co so either I just don't smoke until I get home or ask them first. Often I don't bother asking because people are too damn polite to say no.

Sometimes I'm lucky and find myself in the company of fellow smokers. Remember one time sat in a bar next to my partners friend, we were happily smoking and farting away and no one cared. emoticon

Even as a smoker I would go to the non-smoking section in restaraunts, I appreciate how disgusting it is.

Anyway since I have given up I still think it would be just plain siLLy to ban smoking in public.

Ban drunks in public instead, I've been threatened by drunken thugs more times than I've been offended by smokers, surely their intoxication is more harmful to others than a bit of smokey air....?




Hehe, I got quoted.

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Yup, ya did.

But I don't see how you could feasibly enforce a ban in open air public spaces like a park.

I think it would be more reasonable to ban it in fully enclosed public spaces such as bars or restaurants.

Getting back to what acebloke said:
I see pubs and smoking linked culturally, but then again we have other examples of cultures based on activities which hurt others. The middle east and war, prostitution and violence, all inextricably linked but thats not to say we should let it continue.

My god, I can't believe I'm almost for the ban. If a ban was enforced I think a lot of people would be forced out of smoking in front of others, so it could go either way; driven underground and made to seem more dangerous than it really is (think cannibis) OR more people would be put off thus smoking would be seen as highly antisocial, with only a majority partaking in this....wonderful....yummy....

oh no I've got the urge!!

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If you start smoking, thats pretty much it. Unless you WANT to quit.

I don't see the point in damaging your body for a few moments of, whatever it is that it feels like. And everyone feels as though its normal to do it and if you don't your "weird." Jeez, no one cares about themselves anymore. And most smokers don't care about other people who do care about their bodies. Like in pubs, I was in one for a few hours the other day and my nose felt like it was burning because of all the smoke around me, it was such a small pub and almost everyone there was smoking. And if I went outside people were taking drugs.

Oh yeah, I found some of your cigarretes in my room, must have been when I didn't want you smoking so I took them. emoticon

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Hmm you seem to think that all smokers are hooked for life.

I gave up pretty easily, it was no big deal. I only smoked 1 or two a day regularly. Hardly gonna kill on the spot me unless I kept going. Our dad on the other hand has smoked all his life (me only 2 years).

Small pubs are the worst for smoke, why don't you try and find a nice big open bar...there are some in greenwich zeen, and the cinema there is very very nice i.e. good area for nights out with your friends.

What uhmmm, drugs were these people taking? emoticon

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Only a few give up, out of everyone I know who have smoked, only 1 managed to give up. That's like 1/20 people who I know have been smoking awhile.

And I can't remember what they were taking, I didn't want to ask.

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That's like 1/20 people who I know have been smoking awhile.



Does that include me? emoticon
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I mean't my friends, but ok 2/20 people then. :spin:

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So I'm not your friend? emoticon
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Nah you're her sister, you're much closer than a friend. :escher:

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Nah you're her sister, you're much closer than a friend. :escher:



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