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Okay have you ever heard of the "devil"? Theres God and the Devil, The Devil tempts us to do these things which are ungodfully which leads to "Sin". The serpent (the devil) in the garden of Eden tempted Eve to eat the fruit which GAVE us our sin nature..

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Okay have you ever heard of the "devil"? Theres God and the Devil, The Devil tempts us to do these things which are ungodfully which leads to "Sin". The serpent (the devil) in the garden of Eden tempted Eve to eat the fruit which GAVE us our sin nature..



It's all stories. To me its all make-believe. Where is this God? Where is this Devil/Serphent? What exactly is right and wrong? Doing something because it makes you happy? Because to you its right? No ones perfect, that doesn't mean the "Devil" made us imperfect. We are humans, we do what we like. And its great that we have that freedom.

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so you tell me how we got here......

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No one knows for sure. We all have theories, but none are solid proof. And I don't think anyone will ever find out.

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   Zeen is absolutely right. The garden of eden is simply a story. She's also right about how we got here. No one knows. I doubt any of us will ever know, but that isn't going to stop people from trying to figure it out.

    Mitch and Blitz seem to think that Adam, Eve, and the Garden of Eden were real. Well let me tell you they aren't. The timeline given by the Bible puts the Earth at around 6000 years old. I can guarantee you that is blatantly false. Radioactive dating techniques do not lie and put the Earth at around 4 billion years of age. Its quite naive to think otherwise. Thus the Garden of Eden cannot be the starting point of our Earth or of human beings.

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Okay have you ever heard of the "devil"? Theres God and the Devil, The Devil tempts us to do these things which are ungodfully which leads to "Sin". The serpent (the devil) in the garden of Eden tempted Eve to eat the fruit which GAVE us our sin nature..



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So your god does not believe in individualality


2) If god did such a good job, how were we tricked so SIMPLY.
3) Using a devil is such a cheap way of making excuses and blaming something that cant be manifested as a human.

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so you tell me how we got here......



Well personaly my mother gave birth to me.






The problem with religion is: It doesnt help people form their own opinions, its just a translation of someone elses. You give all these reasons like the devil and god to explain things, but what leads you to this conclusion ? A book ? A book that has been poorly translated for thousands of years.

Now my personal view on mutation creating life, what do I have to back my view up ? well theres examples of fish mutated through the use of foriegn chemicals being poored into their waters. That is physical evidence. Now your god: does he have a place of residence ? can I visit him in the middle east ? can I ring him up or email him, or is there any photographic evidence of his existance ?

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Good Lord, we've stumbled into religious debate again. If I offend anyone (either, past, present, or future), my apologies.

Now, if you will flick over to the Religious Thread, you'll see my opinions in regards to Noah's Ark and Religious Truth.
I'd relate the story of The Fall to a similar level:created as an explanation for what ancient Hebrews did not understand. Once again, what we draw from these tales is religious truth.
I do not read everything in the Bible as literal truth (Catholics believe that the Bible is to be interpreted), but a text that harbours religious truths.

I believe in a God that gives us free will and freedom, and it is from this free will that we can control our destiny, and do with our lives as we see fit. I believe in a God that respects the individual. In addition, I find it amusing that Acebloke speaks so avidly of individualism, despite being an avid Communist., but I digress.

The concept of Original Sin is the idea that in the first act disobedience of God created a rift that weakened unity of God. What we draw from that is the idea that we must strive to unite ourselves with God in our own lifetime. I also view that the religious truth within the concept of being created in God's image, we were created with free will, intelligence, and a capacity to empathy.

Now, this is where we differentiate. The concept of Faith. The Oxford Dictionary defines faith as the following...
1. Complete trust or confidence.
2. Firm belief, especially without logical proof.
3. Religious belief.
4. Duty or commitment to fulfil a trust, promise, etc.

Faith can be seen as the power to place trust in what you believe, and still believe in what cannot be seen. You desire the physical, what can be seen, touched and so forth. This is where you have issues with religion. Religions lives from faith, and by calling for the residence of God (and asking for his e-mail), you make it clear that you are not comfortable with religion. (Fair enough, but I'll make myself clear on the idea that there is no need to bombs-away on those do. The same holds true for those with religion.) I cannot physically see God, but (in my humble opinion) I see him at work in all good things.

If we are to say that we understand God, we are to say that he is so small that he can fit into our brains. I certainly don't understand how God worksin His entirety, but what I do have is faith.

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Are you a Christian Arbitier? Transexuallity is NOT RIGHT it is un-natural no matter if God made us or we evolved from billions and trillions of ever ago we weren't Made/transformed that way we are Male and Female not Male/Female and Female/Male It is sick and wrong to do this. much like gayness It is UN-NATURAL, our bodys were made for EACH OTHER not for one another when will our society ever get it right... :nono2:

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By the way Ace we learn from our ancestors, and since they were the first ones we learned everything from them...Sin nature is what we are I bet you didn't know but God made the Devil he was an angel who turned "evil" and satans domminions have to go to god for every person they want to tempt

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Yes, I am a Christian. However, I knew there would be some things that people may disagree with me on.
I, for one, believe in a God that shows love for all, regardless of what we choose to do with our bodies, or what sexual orientation we may select.
I, like the majority of people out there, are not transexual/homosexual in nature, but I do not think that God loves a person any more or less than another depending on the life choices they make.
However, where any problems I have lie with it is a matter of self esteem. They dislike their own bodies enough to make major changes. This is a difficult life to lead, and whatever one chooses to do, they (along with their peers) must tread carefully, and respect the interior of the person, as opposed to the exterior.

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By the way Ace we learn from our ancestors, and since they were the first ones we learned everything from them...Sin nature is what we are I bet you didn't know but God made the Devil he was an angel who turned "evil" and satans domminions have to go to god for every person they want to tempt



I'm well versed in the basics, yeah I know the devil used to be an angel. I'm abit blurry onto why he turned evil though, wasnt it something to do with god giving the angels a command that contradicted with a previous command he gave ? And the devil refused to disobey the first command ? Thats called a mistake, a mistake on god's part.

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I find it amusing that Acebloke speaks so avidly of individualism, despite being an avid Communist.



Haha, there are many forms of communism, I've never been against individualism, and very much practice it myself, it doesnt stop being part of a collective force though. The problem is everyone thinks communism is evil just cause the soviet union didnt work out. Well I'll tell you now: there isnt many socialist/conservatist/nationalist/liberalist countries that are perfect either.

Being gay is only unatural due to all life on earth's primary goal: have sex, The need to produce offspring and continue the race. Does that mean anyone who doesnt have children is un-christian ? as they are unable to lose control onto their sexual desires ?

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If we are to say that we understand God, we are to say that he is so small that he can fit into our brains. I certainly don't understand how God worksin His entirety, but what I do have is faith.



Speaking of brains, if god made us, then why is over half of our brains completely useless that doesnt do anything. Thats another problem that I've yet to see explained.

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